{"id":1696,"date":"2026-01-03T15:46:13","date_gmt":"2026-01-03T15:46:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/?p=1696"},"modified":"2026-02-08T11:13:09","modified_gmt":"2026-02-08T11:13:09","slug":"grace-that-works-podcast-ep2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/it\/grace-that-works-podcast-ep2\/","title":{"rendered":"Grace That Works \u2013 Podcast Ep:2 with Pastor Lawrence Ihekweme"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Why Grace That Works with Pastor Lawrence Ihekweme - EP. 2 [English]\" width=\"1778\" height=\"1000\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/ESy3T2RzmvU?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Grace That Works Podcast Ep2 \u2013 Transcript<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Host:<\/strong> Giancarlo<br><strong>Guest:<\/strong> Pastor Lawrence Ihekweme<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Giancarlo<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Hello everyone. Welcome back. Finally, welcome back.<br>We just want to say sorry for taking a break.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">I know that we paused for a long time, but we needed some time to recharge, refocus, and come back with new ideas and new conversations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">So, welcome back to <em>Grace That Works<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Before we dive in, I just want to thank International Christian Church, ICCR, for providing us this building and this wonderful studio, making this podcast possible.<br>So we want to thank International Christian Church Rome.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Don\u2019t forget to subscribe to the <em>Grace That Works<\/em> YouTube channel, and please also follow ICCR on all social media platforms.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">After this long intro, I\u2019m really honored to present today\u2019s guest \u2014 someone who doesn\u2019t really need an introduction if you already follow International Christian Church Rome on YouTube.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">I can proudly say this person is my pastor, someone who is guiding me spiritually.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Let me introduce to you Pastor Lawrence Ihekweme. I hope I pronounced your surname correctly, and I hope this was a great introduction for a great man of God.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">So, hi Pastor Lawrence. How are you doing?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Lawrence<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Well, Giancarlo, thank you for that introduction.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Hi everyone. As Minister Giancarlo said, my name is Lawrence.<br>I\u2019m the lead pastor of International Christian Church \u2014 the best church in the world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Amen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">If you\u2019re looking for a spirit-filled, Bible-believing, Holy Ghost-moving church with miracles and deliverance, come to ICCR in Garbatella. There you\u2019ll see Jesus in action.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Thank you for the introduction. It\u2019s wonderful to be here today.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">My wife and I are truly thrilled and blessed to be leading one of the best churches in the world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Giancarlo<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">You already introduced yourself, but I\u2019d like people listening to know more about your story and how you ended up here in Rome.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">You came to Rome in 2001 \u2014 23 years ago \u2014 and here you met the love of your life, Pastor Asangi, who is now your wife. You got married in 2007.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">I see you\u2019re surprised \u2014 yes, I did my research.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Together, in 2015, you decided to found this ministry, International Christian Church Rome.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Lawrence<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Actually, the original document says <em>International Christian Church Italy<\/em>, because the vision God gave us was to establish a vibrant, Holy Ghost-moving church in every major city in Italy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Giancarlo<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Wow \u2014 you were already prophesying.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Lawrence<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Yes, we already see it. There will be many ICC churches across Italy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Giancarlo<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">That\u2019s wonderful. I know you\u2019re a man of vision.<br>Can you tell us the mission statement of ICCR?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Lawrence<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Our mission is simple:<br>To reach the lost, disciple them, empower them, and send them to the nations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Many people come with deep life issues. We bring the healing power of God, we disciple them, empower them, and send them out to impact the world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Giancarlo<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">That\u2019s powerful. And recently we celebrated our 10-year anniversary. Congratulations, Pastor, and congratulations ICCR.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">You\u2019ve seen many miracles \u2014 but what is the greatest miracle you\u2019ve witnessed?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Lawrence<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">The greatest miracle is not healing, restoration, or deliverance \u2014 though we see those often.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">The greatest miracle is seeing a lost soul come to Christ.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Healing is easy. Deliverance is easy. But salvation cost God the highest price.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">When someone is saved, the weight of sin is lifted, transformation begins, and they belong to God.<br>That is the greatest miracle.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">We\u2019ve seen tumors disappear, families restored, and sickness healed \u2014 but seeing a soul saved is the greatest miracle of all.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Giancarlo<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">I agree. I can testify to that myself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Speaking of vision \u2014 this podcast, <em>Grace That Works<\/em>, is your idea.<br>Why did you choose this name?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Lawrence<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">During the 2020 lockdown, God spoke to me clearly.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">First: keep the church open.<br>Second: feed the people.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Italy was in strict lockdown. We started recording services with a phone. We had no idea what we were doing \u2014 but we trusted God.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Then God told us to feed the people. We had little money, but we obeyed. We bought food, posted online, and people started coming.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">One day it was 50 families. Then 100. Then 200. Then 600. Then 800.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Every day, food appeared. People came. We prayed, shared the Gospel, and gave Bibles.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">That\u2019s when the phrase came to me: <strong>Grace That Works<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">God\u2019s grace gives supernatural ability to do what we cannot do ourselves.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Giancarlo<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">That\u2019s incredible. And now more than 800 families receive food here.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">If you\u2019re in Rome and need food, ICCR\u2019s Hopebag Ministry is here at Via Leopoldo Traversi 29, Garbatella \u2014 offering both physical and spiritual nourishment.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Lawrence<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">During COVID, the church never closed \u2014 not for one week.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">We saw healing, salvation, restoration, and transformation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Later, God told us to buy this building \u2014 without bank help.<br>We obeyed, even when the church had almost no money.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">God provided everything.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">We don\u2019t brag about buildings \u2014 we brag about God.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Testimonies build faith. If God did it for us, He can do it for you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Giancarlo<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">This building is nearly 1,000 square meters, in a central area of Rome. Buying property here is extremely difficult \u2014 financially and legally.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">This is truly a testimony.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Lawrence<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Exactly. We are here to testify, not to boast.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">God told Israel to pass testimonies to future generations.<br>We brag about God because He is real.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">If you don\u2019t know Jesus, life is misery. Knowing Him is a privilege.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Giancarlo<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Pastor, do you have a final message or prayer?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Lawrence<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">The Bible says we are saved by grace through faith \u2014 not by works.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Grace is Jesus Christ.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Why suffer in fear, anxiety, or depression when grace is available?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">I was once lost. But when grace came, I heard God say, \u201cI love you.\u201d<br>That peace changed my life forever.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">If you believe and confess Jesus, you will be saved.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">I pray right now that the Holy Spirit meets you where you are \u2014 that you experience salvation, healing, peace, and transformation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Be healed. Be free. Receive the grace of God.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">In Jesus\u2019 name. Amen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Giancarlo<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Wow. That was powerful.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">If this podcast touched you, please subscribe, like, and comment.<br>Let us know what topics you\u2019d like next.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Thank you for watching.<br>Thank you for being part of <em>Grace That Works<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Join our host Giancarlo and our lead pastor Lawrence Ihekweme in the second episode of Grace That Works podcast talking about the greatest miracle one can receive.<\/p>","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":1720,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"nf_dc_page":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[146],"tags":[147],"class_list":["post-1696","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-podcasts","tag-grace-that-works-podcasts"],"blocksy_meta":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1696","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1696"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1696\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1704,"href":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1696\/revisions\/1704"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1720"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1696"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1696"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1696"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}