{"id":1706,"date":"2026-01-03T16:13:59","date_gmt":"2026-01-03T16:13:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/?p=1706"},"modified":"2026-01-03T16:14:01","modified_gmt":"2026-01-03T16:14:01","slug":"grace-that-works-podcast-ep3","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/it\/grace-that-works-podcast-ep3\/","title":{"rendered":"Change Your Mindset &#8211; Grace That Works Podcast Ep3"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Change your way of thinking with Pastor Beth Lavino - EP.3  [English]\" width=\"1778\" height=\"1000\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/v_tjUfHnQvA?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Grace That Works \u2013 Episode Transcript<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\"><strong>Host:<\/strong> Giancarlo<br><strong>Guest:<\/strong> Pastor Beth Lavino<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Giancarlo<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Hello friends, and welcome to another edition of <strong>Grace That Works<\/strong>.<br>It has truly been a blessing to have this broadcast\u2014to reach you, to speak to you right where you are: at home, in your car, or at your workplace.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">I just want you to know that <strong>Jesus loves you<\/strong>, and I want you to know the <strong>grace of God<\/strong>.<br>The Bible says in <em>Ephesians 2:8<\/em>: <em>\u201cFor by grace you are saved.\u201d<\/em> It is not our gift. And because it is by grace, through faith, we can trust the Lord to do what we cannot do by ourselves.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">So I encourage you\u2014stay tuned and keep watching, because today\u2019s edition is going to be amazing.<br>Grab a coffee or a tea\u2014I love tea\u2014and sit back as we enjoy this episode of <strong>Grace That Works<\/strong>.<br>God bless you as you are watching right now.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">I have a guest today who has been a friend for several years.<br>She came in this week, and it has been one meeting after another. Lives have been transformed, people have been healed, and God is doing great things in Rome.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">This is Rome time. This is church time in Rome.<br>There are things happening here that people are not hearing about.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Come to <strong>International Christian Church Rome<\/strong>, where Jesus is alive. You will be touched, loved, and taken care of.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">It is my pleasure and privilege to introduce our guest for this edition of <em>Grace That Works<\/em>:<br><strong>Pastor Beth Lavino<\/strong>, executive pastor at <strong>Generation Church, Phoenix<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Welcome.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Beth <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Hello! It is so good to be here.<br>It\u2019s a blessing to be back in Rome. I love Rome, and I love your church.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Giancarlo<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">We\u2019re so excited to have you here again.<br>Last time you came, it was summertime, and you came with Pastor Paul and brought groups\u2014it was amazing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">This time you came to speak at our women\u2019s conference, and God did incredible things.<br>The place was packed with women, and I truly believe you\u2019re going to outgrow your building soon.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">I\u2019d love for you to tell our audience a bit about yourself and about <strong>Generation Church<\/strong>\u2014what God is doing there.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Beth <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">My name is Beth.<br>I love Rome, I love this church, and I love Pastor Lawrence and what God is doing here.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">I serve at <strong>Generation Church in Arizona<\/strong>, and I absolutely love watching God change people\u2019s lives.<br>When I started working there, the church had just a few hundred people. Today, we are running well over <strong>6,000<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">We see hundreds of people saved and baptized every year. It is truly the hand of God\u2014these things don\u2019t happen without Him.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">I have the privilege of serving as executive pastor, overseeing ministries like Celebrate Recovery, Chosen Ministry, life groups, assimilation, and guest experience.<br>It\u2019s a blessing, and I love ministry.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Giancarlo<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Wow. That is a lot of responsibility, and the church is truly blessed to have you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">I believe what God is doing at Generation Church, He can do anywhere\u2014including here in Rome.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Beth <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Absolutely.<br>We\u2019re seeing the same anointing in different places. We\u2019re focusing less on methods and more on what God is doing in people\u2019s lives\u2014and that\u2019s where true freedom comes from.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Giancarlo<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">I want to talk about today\u2019s message, because it deeply touched me.<br>I couldn\u2019t stop crying. The Holy Spirit was there.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">It wasn\u2019t about the preacher\u2014it was about God using you as an instrument.<br>The topic was about <strong>how we think<\/strong>, and how important Christlike thinking is.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Why is this so important?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Beth <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">If we don\u2019t know how to think and trust the Lord, we spend too much time thinking about things that distract us.<br>That keeps us from hearing God\u2019s voice and doing what He\u2019s called us to do.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Who wants to follow Jesus if Christians are just worried and anxious all the time?<br>We are called to think differently.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Giancarlo<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">The Bible says, <em>\u201cAs a man thinks, so he is.\u201d<\/em><br>Our thought life is our responsibility.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Beth <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Yes, it is.<br>God gives us the tools, but He doesn\u2019t force our thinking. We must choose to think His way.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Giancarlo<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">You shared from <strong>1 Samuel 30<\/strong>, the story of David and his men.<br>Everything was lost\u2014families kidnapped, homes burned\u2014and yet the Bible says <em>David encouraged himself in the Lord<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">That spoke powerfully to me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Beth <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Before David made a plan, before he took action, before he called anyone\u2014he encouraged himself in the Lord.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">He had to get his heart right before he could hear God.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Giancarlo<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Friends, maybe you\u2019re watching right now and facing fear, anxiety, or a bad report.<br>This is the moment to stop, reflect, and remember what God has already done in your life.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">So Pastor Beth, how can we encourage ourselves in the Lord?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Beth <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Everyone is different, but there are key ways:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li class=\"\">Reading the Bible<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Praying<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li class=\"\">Being connected to a church family<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">It is very hard to walk through life alone.<br>And worship\u2014worship is powerful. It takes our eyes off ourselves and puts them on God.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Giancarlo<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Worship is a weapon.<br>It\u2019s not just singing\u2014it\u2019s declaring who God is.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Beth <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Exactly.<br>God created music, and when we worship, our spirit connects with truth.<br>In His presence, lives are changed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Giancarlo<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">You mentioned the importance of the local church.<br>Many people today say they don\u2019t need church.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Beth <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">The church was <strong>Jesus\u2019 idea<\/strong>.<br>You can\u2019t love Jesus and reject His church.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">If someone said they loved my husband but not me, that wouldn\u2019t work\u2014and it\u2019s the same with Jesus.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">The church provides fellowship, accountability, growth, purpose, and community.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Giancarlo<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Many say they were hurt by church\u2014but staying away doesn\u2019t bring healing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Beth <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Exactly.<br>People hurt people, but we don\u2019t abandon God\u2019s purpose because of pain.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Jesus was betrayed, yet He didn\u2019t walk away from the cross.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Giancarlo<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Friends, it\u2019s time to love again, serve again, and trust again.<br>The local church matters.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Pastor Beth, would you speak directly to those watching right now?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Beth <\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">God loves you. He has a plan for your life.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">The enemy wants you isolated, but Jesus wants you connected.<br>Ten years from now, your life will look very different if you choose church, faith, and community.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Jesus\u2019 way always leads to peace, purpose, and freedom.<br>Trust Him. Give Him your life. His way is better.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Giancarlo<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Amen.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Next year we\u2019ll be launching <strong>Celebrate Recovery<\/strong>, and we\u2019ll share more soon.<br>If you\u2019re in Rome, come join us\u2014Jesus is alive, and the grace of God is at work.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"\">Thank you so much, Pastor Beth.<br>God bless you.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pastor Beth Lavino shares biblical insight on renewing the mind, worship, healing, and why the local church still matters today.<\/p>","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"nf_dc_page":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[146],"tags":[147],"class_list":["post-1706","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-podcasts","tag-grace-that-works-podcasts"],"blocksy_meta":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1706","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1706"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1706\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1708,"href":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1706\/revisions\/1708"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1706"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1706"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/iccrome.com\/it\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1706"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}